Is Your Tascam US-144 mkII Noisy? Just Sit on it.


The TASCAM US-144 mkII gets noisy when the temperature drops.

The TASCAM US-144 mkII's Phantom Power gets very noisy when the temperature drops below 65

I recently purchased two sets of podcasting gear to record podcasts with someone in another state. The gear included two TASCAM US-144 mkII interfaces, two Audio-Technica AT 2020 condenser microphones, two mic cables, two stands, two pop filters, two sets of headphones, etc. As I recorded I noticed an inconsistent whine in the audio. Sometimes the wine was little more than a vinyl-record-like scratch, other times it was a scream, and still others it disappeared altogether.

To track down the source, I started by changing out the AC power for battery power, switching USB cords, switching mic cords, switching microphones, switching interfaces, turning on and off the wireless network, unplugging my wireless router, changing rooms, and even moving to a location several miles away. None of these things had any consistent effect on the whine. After a lot of trial and error, I have narrowed the problem down to two three variables: Temperature, Phantom Power and the MIC/LINE-GUITAR select switch.

The whine appears with the phantom power on, while the interface is cold (ie, less than about 65 degrees Fahrenheit). It gets worse when the MIC/LINE-GUITAR select switch is set to “Guitar.” Setting the MIC/LINE-GUITAR select switch to “Guitar” makes it act as an unbalanced input jack, which probably explains the noise. But turning on the phantom power while the interface is cold produces a lot of noise.

The solution: Sit on the interface to warm it up. My home “studio” is in a very cold room with two exterior walls, and it’s the middle of winter. So in order to warm up the interface—no joke—I actually put it under my thigh for a good 10-15 minutes. I didn’t read that helpful work-around in the manual. I thought about using an electric blanket, but I was afraid that might cause some induction damage.

The Test

I conducted a test to demonstrate the whine, which I have included here. For the test I had the following setup: I plugged an Audio-Technica AT 2020 condenser mic into the MIC IN L XLR balanced jack. I also plugged a crappy old dynamic mic into the LINE IN R/GUITAR IN jack TRS 1/4″ jack. For the “Cold” test, I left the interface in a box in my car for 30 minutes, where the outside temperature is around 25° Fahrenheit. For the “Warm” test, I basically sat on the interface for about 15 minutes until the interface housing was noticeably warmer than room temperature.

I then recorded a systematic test of the phantom power, left and right input levels, and the MIC/LINE-GUITAR select switch in 10-second intervals. I included the results in a table below, with each numbered setting corresponding to a period of time on the non-normalized .mp3 file. You can skip around to compare the different settings if you’d like. Please ignore the ambient noise of the HVAC system, as well as the lousy line quality for my crappy dynamic mic.

INTERFACE TEMPERATURE: COLD (~30°- ~65° Fahrenheit)
Setting Time on Tape Phantom Power INPUT L Levels
(AT 2020)
INPUT R Levels
(Crappy Dynamic)
LINE/MIC- GUITAR
Select Switch
Whine
1 0:00-0:10 OFF Line (Low) Line (Low) Line/Mic None
2 0:10-0:20 Mic (High) Line/Mic None
3 0:20-0:30 Line Guitar None
4 0:30-0:40 Mic Guitar None
5 0:40-0:50 Mic (High) Line Line/Mic Scratch
6 0:50-1:00 Mic Line/Mic Scratch
7 1:00-1:10 Line Guitar Scratch
8 1:10-1:20 Mic Guitar Scratch
9 1:20-1:30 ON Line Line Line/Mic Whine-Low
10 1:30-1:40 Mic Line/Mic Whine-Med
11 1:40-1:50 Line Guitar Whine-Med
12 1:50-2:00 Mic Guitar Whine-Scream
13 2:00-2:10 Mic Line Line/Mic Whine-Loud
14 2:10-2:20 Mic Line/Mic Whine-Loud
15 2:20-2:30 Line Guitar Whine-Loud
16 2:30-2:40 Mic Guitar Whine-Scream

INTERFACE TEMPERATURE: WARM (~75°+ Fahrenheit)
Setting Time on Tape Phantom Power INPUT L Levels
(AT 2020)
INPUT R Levels
(Crappy Dynamic)
LINE/MIC- GUITAR
Select Switch
Whine
1 2:40-2:50 OFF Line (Low) Line (Low) Line/Mic None
2 2:50-3:00 Mic (High) Line/Mic None
3 3:00-3:10 Line Guitar None
4 3:10-3:20 Mic Guitar Scratch
5 3:20-3:30 Mic (High) Line Line/Mic Scratch
6 3:30-3:40 Mic Line/Mic Scratch
7 3:40-3:50 Line Guitar Scratch
8 3:50-4:00 Mic Guitar Scratch
9 4:00-4:10 ON Line Line Line/Mic None
10 4:10-4:20 Mic Line/Mic None
11 4:20-4:30 Line Guitar None
12 4:30-4:40 Mic Guitar Whine-Loud
13 4:40-4:50 Mic Line Line/Mic None
14 4:50-5:00 Mic Line/Mic None
15 5:00-5:10 Line Guitar None
16 5:10-5:20 Mic Guitar Whine-Loud

My home studio is in the basement near an outside wall, so it’s usually around 65°. Every morning the whine reappears until I physically warm the unit to around 75°+.

At lower temps, the phantom power whines and bleeds over into the 1/4″ inputs, which surprises me because most electronics are happier when they’re cold. I’d chalk it up to a defective unit, except that I purchased two 144 mkII’s, and both units display the same behavior. Regardless, I’m not looking forward to the hassle of returning or exchanging the interface. It’s going to put me back several weeks.

I wonder if anyone else has experienced these same problems. The helpful guys at Sweetwater didn’t seem to have bumped into the problem before.

[Update Jan 14, 2010]

I have decided to return the mkII’s to Sweetwater in favor of another brand, perhaps an M-Audio. I haven’t decided. At first I was content to swap them out for non-defective mkIIs, but apparently TASCAM has temporarily stopped shipping the US-144 mkII. More precisely, they are taking orders without providing a firm ETA. This is apparently quite unusual, and in the estimation of the guy I talked to it likely indicates that they are doing some re-tooling.

I decided that I’m probably better off not being the guinea pig for the “fixed” version (if, in fact they are re-tooling). And even if they’re not re-tooling, I don’t want to wait indefinitely for TASCAM to fill the order.

I am so glad that I purchased from Sweetwater instead of Guitar Center. Sweetwater has much better support. Let me correct that: Sweetwater offers any type of support.

[Update Jan 25, 2010]

I decided to go with a Lexicon Omega instead. So far (in some preliminary recordings) I haven’t had any noise problems, thought the levels are significantly lower than the Tascam 144 mkII. I’ll just have to do more post-normalization. I hope the noise levels stay tolerable.

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  1. #1 by Brad on January 11th, 2010

    Great write up. I’m considering the Tascam 144 for recording vinyl to my pc, temperature jankeyness notwithstanding, would you recommend this piece of hardware? Thanks.

  2. #2 by Titus on January 11th, 2010

    The TASCAM 144 (original) is great… I never had any problems with it. Even the mkII is a great piece of hardware, if I didn’t have to warm it up every time I wanted to use it. I’m still deciding whether the hassle of warming it up is more or less than the hassle of getting a new unit, installing new software, and starting over.

  3. #3 by Brad on January 12th, 2010

    Thanks for the reply. If i end up going with the Tascam, I’ll let you know how it goes.

  4. #4 by Benjamin on January 14th, 2010

    The symptoms you describe are typical of a faulty electronic component. Get it changed before it dies totally (and your guarantee expires!)

    I had one where, when switched to Guitar (and only when switched to Guitar), the input would click when the green Signal lamp switched on and off.

    I have read of people having several unrelated problems with the Mk2. I wonder if the quality control has slipped?

  5. #5 by Benjamin on January 15th, 2010

    On closer listening, I notice your 144 mk2 also has the right channel Guitar setting click problem!

    Listen at 1:10[s8], 3:10[s4] and 3:50[s8] (they are all right channel, set to Guitar.) You can clearly hear clicks.

    I bet this is happening as your voice switches the green SIG light on and off, right?

    Drat. I was hoping mine was just faulty. I was going to order another one, but if yours also has this problem, then obviously they all do this.

    Mine was serial number 0040815 by the way.

  6. #6 by Titus on January 15th, 2010

    Benjamin,
    You know, I hadn’t noticed whether the clicks are associated with the SIG light turning on and off. You’re probably right. Do you also have the whine problem?
    And since you mention it, my serial numbers were: 0021661 and 0012254.

  7. #7 by Benjamin on January 15th, 2010

    No whine problem, nor the “frying” sound you have. Apart from the Guitar-green lamp click phenomenon, mine was very very silent. I have three Edirol interfaces and Tascam’s 1641, and they are silent, too, so I do have a reference. I used a Shure SM58 at the dead of night with AKG headphones.

    So did you have TWO with this whine/fizzing? Because that indicates a failing component, and to have it twice is unfortunate indeed! Your serial numbers are earlier than mine, but still fairly far apart.

    My (old-school) boss taught me a trick: forget fault-finding with oscilloscopes and signal generators. Just put on headphones, then touch each component with ice bundled in a sealed bag. Hear a change? That’s your faulty component!

    I’m almost certain the click is a design fault. A pity, because there’s nothing else in that price range that does 96k. And I prefer the layout to having knobs in front for desktop work.

  8. #8 by Benjamin on January 15th, 2010

    …ah, you say you had the old 144, without problems. Also no click?

    Perhaps I’ll go that route. The preamps are supposed to be better in the Mk2, but by how much? The gain isn’t that great either, and I use a Shure SM7, which needs quite some gain.

  9. #9 by Titus on January 15th, 2010

    I also wish there were something comparable in design and price, but there really isn’t. I’m going to return the two units in favor of a Lexicon Omega. I’m with you- I also prefer the knobs on the front for desktop recording; I’m not as excited about the Omega interface, but if it works, I’m game.

    The ice-bag trick is genius! I didn’t pop open the units, primarily because I didn’t want to void any warranty. But I’ll remember it for the future.

  10. #10 by Titus on January 15th, 2010

    I used the 144 without any problems, but it was also in an environment that never got cold. I’m choosing not to go with the 144 because they don’t have driver support for Win 7. I have one machine running win 7 64 bit, and getting something to work on that machine is another hassle altogether.

  11. #11 by Benjamin on January 15th, 2010

    No Win7 drivers – you’re right! Wheras the mk2 versions all have Win7 drivers online. Cheek.

    I see a new US-800 has been announced. No details yet. But not as portable.

  12. #12 by Benjamin on January 15th, 2010

    no, wait, I tell a lie. The DO have Win7 for the Mk1; also 64-bit.

    http://www.tascam.com/details;9,15,70,19.html

    OK, I know what I’m gonna do.

  13. #13 by mike on January 27th, 2010

    Exact same problem here that renders the device useless for me, since I use it for guitar amp modeling (guitar rig 4). The clicks and pops are very bad by themselves, but when you use a hi gain amp with distortion or overdrive the slight clicks and pops become a huge issue. I can see in various forums that many people have the same issues. In the official forum TASCAM pretends nothing is wrong, so no solution.

    STAY AWAY FROM IT! BUY SOMETHING ELSE!!!

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